In the last couple of years there’s been an explosion of change within black America, a rise in the movement for black lives, and specifically organizations like Black Lives Matter. But it’s still within that context that various trends have started to surface, trends of thought, and within those there’s this odd situation, it’s something I’ve found out. Which is that there is increased attention about what’s been described as anti-black racism, but very little attention to matters of class, very little attention to the issue of capitalism, and to some extent an ambivalence about other forms of racism that permeate your society. So we thought it’d be a good time to have a discussion about what is exactly is going on – what do we make of this and what are the implications for the future of the black freedom movement in the 21st Century.

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